9/11 and Skeptic Magazine’s ‘Science’ of Controlled Demolitions

December 8, 2011

by Jerremy Hammond    source: Foreign Policy Journal    Dec 8, 2011

Chris Mohr at Skeptic magazine writes that “conspiracists are working hard to publicize their claims of scientific validity to the conjecture that the World Trade Center buildings were destroyed through controlled demolition.” He mentions a debate he had with Richard Gage, the founder of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, where more than 1,500 professional architects and engineers who question the official explanation for the collapse of the three World Trade Center buildings have signed a petition calling for a new—that is to say a real—investigation. “I thought initially that Gage might be on to something,” Mohr writes, “until I examined his science carefully” and debated him. In his article, he lists his responses to the controlled-demolition hypothesis. Sticking to the question of World Trade Center Building 7 (WTC 7), let’s examine Mohr’s arguments against the science behind the controlled-demolition hypothesis and in favor of the fire-induced collapse hypothesis. If you’re unfamiliar with WTC 7, you can watch it collapsing on 9/11 in the video below.

Mohr begins his case with the argument that “You cannot secretly prepare a controlled demolition of the two World Trade Center buildings … without anyone noticing anything unusual.” He does not mention it, but we may presume he thinks it would be just as impossible in the case of WTC 7, the third WTC building to collapse completely on 9/11. The main point to be made about this assertion is that it is not a scientific argument, but speculation. It, for starters, assumes that nobody noticed anything unusual in the days, weeks, and months before 9/11. But is that true? Since this possibility was never actually investigated, and thus building workers were never interviewed and asked whether they noticed any suspicious activity going on, we don’t really know. Also, while it may seem unlikely that this could be done, if the actual scientific evidence disproves the fire-induced collapse hypothesis and proves the alternative, then one has a priori knowledge that, however unlikely, this must have occurred. So we must turn to the science, which Mohr does get to, eventually, as we shall see.

Mohr writes, “Though it is true that no tall steel frame buildings ever collapsed due to fire alone prior to 9/11, since then, other tall steel framed buildings have.” He is referring, of course, to WTC 7, which wasn’t hit by a plane. It did suffer significant debris impact damage from the collapse of the North Tower, but the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), the government agency responsible for the investigation into the building’s collapse, acknowledged that the damage was neither an initiating nor determinative factor in the collapse. As the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) noted in its initial report, “Prior to September 11, 2001, there was little, if any, record of fire-induced collapse of large fire-protected steel buildings.” Following up on FEMA’s preliminary investigation, NIST noted in its final report that the collapse of WTC 7 “was the first known instance of the total collapse of a tall building primarily due to fires.” Richard Gage has observed that in every instance where a tall building (that is, a steel-framed skyscraper) has collapsed with characteristics like those of WTC 7, it was a known controlled demolition.

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Jonathan Kay Discusses WTC Building 7 with Professors Graeme Macqueen & Anthony Hall.

September 21, 2011

source: 9/11 Blogger    Sep 21, 2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hDb3Tn3mwA

During the question and answer period, columnist, Jonathan Kay, asks a question to professors Graeme MacQueen and Anthony Hall, as to why more mainstream journalists don’t cover building 7. Professor Hall uses the opportunity to expose one example of Kay’s yellow journalism and under researched defamation having ruined the career of one renowned Canadian journalist. supporting it being seen as “career suicide” to risk covering Building 7 in mainstream media.

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May 24, 2009


Two Physicists with Defense Industry Ties Debate the Science of the Collapse of the Twin Towers with Richard Gage & Neils Harrit

September 21, 2011

source: 9/11 Blogger   Sep 21, 2011

KPFA – hour two of debate – moderator Mickey Huff on The Science around the Twin Towers collapse.

http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/73245

911’s Footprint on America ten years later – September 11, 2011 at 4:00pm
Click to listen (or download)

This debate was held in New York on the 10th Anniversary of the 9/11 attacks.


9/11 Debate with Richard Gage and Chris Mohr in Colorado Broadcasting Live: Listen in

March 6, 2011

Mar 6, 2011

No Lies Radio will be broadcasting the debate live (and archiving it).

http://noliesradio.org/archives/30994

Please CLICK HERE to listen to the live debate starting at 4:00 pm Pacific time, Sunday, March 6.

This is from the Colorado 9/11 Visibility:

Colorado 9/11 Visibility is pleased to announce a live debate addressing the collapse of the three World Trade Center buildings on September 11, 2001

Sunday afternoon, March 6th, at the Boulder campus of the University of Colorado, Colorado 9/11 Visibility will host a debate between Richard Gage, AIA (American Institute of Architects), and Chris Mohr, Denver investigative journalist.

The question: What brought down the three World Trade Center skyscrapers?

Richard Gage, AIA, is a San Francisco Bay Area architect and a member of the American Institute of Architects. He has been an architect for over 23 years and has worked on most types of building construction, including numerous fire-proofed, steel-framed buildings.  His quest for the truth about 9/11 began in 2006, and he subsequently founded Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth.

Chris Mohr, investigative journalist and advocate of the “natural collapse” theory, is a sincere seeker of the truth who has extensively researched the collapses of the World Trade Center (WTC) buildings, consulted with independent physicists and engineers, and passionately argues that the buildings collapsed due to the plane impacts and fires.

In November 2010 at Denver’s Mercury Café, Mohr debated attorney Earl Staelin on the collapse of the twin towers.  This debate was unprecedented in its civility and professionalism.

In the upcoming March 6th debate with Richard Gage, the discussion will explore not only the collapse of the twin towers, but also that of 47-story World Trade Center Building 7, which collapsed completely at 5:21 pm on 9/11/01.  For those of you not familiar with the collapse of WTC7, this is a riveting, don’t-miss controversy.  We look forward to a dynamic, respectful, and thoroughly informative exploration of these topics.

We are pleased to announce that radio personality Tom Kiely of INN World Report will be the moderator for this debate!

This is a rare opportunity!  Please send this announcement to your contacts and invite them to join you at the debate, in particular those who would be especially interested in hearing both sides of this controversial issue.

We believe that both sides debating respectfully, yet passionately, will have a strong impact in making “what happened on 9/11″ a legitimate subject for public discourse. Therefore, due to the importance and uniqueness of this event, Colorado 9/11 Visibility has commissioned a professional video team to film the debate and produce a high-quality program suitable for television broadcast, along with a DVD for distribution.

We need your help. This is an expensive endeavor, and we cannot continue to do work on this seminal issue without funds.  We need donations, both large and small. Please go here to donate at this website, or send a check made out to Colorado 9/11 Visibility and send to Fran Shure, 1841 S. Sherman St., Denver, CO 80210.

To learn more as well as link to the archive of the warm-up radio debate, see the article at Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth


Richard Gage and Chris Mohr Debate WTC Collapse

February 19, 2011

source: Rule of Law Radio   Feb 19, 2011

Live debate between Richard Gage (www.AE911Truth.org) and Chris Mohr, journalist and advocate for the theory of “natural collapse.”

Richard and Chris will be debating in public Sunday March 6th 5pm at the University Memorial Center Room 235 Colorado University in Boulder. A video of that debate will be released subsequently.

(The interview/debate starts about 1/3 of the way into the download)

INN_Radio_2011-02-17_128k.mp3


My Pentagon Manifesto (In Retrospect)

January 10, 2011

by Russell Pickering   source: 9/11 Truth News     Jan 10, 2011

Dear Patriots,

My name is Russell Pickering. I spent approximately 4 years of my life seriously dedicated to understanding what happened at the Pentagon. I used to have the Pentagon Research website. When I decided to leave the 9/11 movement I handed it off to Cosmic Penguin. They let the domain lapse and now it is a purveyor of 9/11 books.

The reason I’ve decided to share some observations here is so that those of us with a pre-disposition to myopia might look up for a minute and assess the current social climate and its implications for near future events.

Many here are astute observers and certainly the majority of you carry credentials far beyond my GED, so, bear with me and just consider this message fairly. Most of you here are sincere Patriots with a deep regard for Truth. Some here are not so benevolent!

After meticulous and dedicated research, including a trip to DC as part of Loose Change’s research team, I can assure you with 100% certainty an aircraft impacted the Pentagon. This is just a physical fact – albeit a counterintuitive one.

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Coast to Coast AM 9/11 debate with Richard Gage and Dave Thomas

August 23, 2010

source: World for 9/11 Truth     Aug 23, 2010 

Coast to Coast AM 9/11 debate with Richard Gage and Dave Thomas

On Saturday August 21st, 2010, Richard Gage, AIA from Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, and Dave Thomas a physicist from New Mexicans for Science and Reason, joined Ian Punnett on Coast to Coast AM for the entire program of 4 hours to debate how the World Trade Center buildings collapsed on September 11, 2001.

Physicist Kim Johnson and chemist Niels Harrit joined the discussion in hour three.

Coast to Coast AM airs on more than 500 stations in the U.S., as well as Canada, Mexico and Guam, and is heard by nearly three million weekly listeners. With hosts George Noory, George Knapp (weekend) and Ian Punnett (weekend), it is the most listened to overnight radio program in North America.

Coast to Coast AM Debate

    Part 1 of 11

    Part 2 of 11

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AE911Truth, Physicists to Debate World Trade Center Destruction on ‘Coast to Coast AM’

August 5, 2010

source: Examiner    Aug 5, 2010

A highly anticipated debate between two members of Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth and two physicists is scheduled for August 21, 2010. The debate will air on the popular late night talk show Coast to Coast AM with host Ian Punnett between 10pm – 2am Pacific time.

Richard Gage, AIA

Richard Gage, AIA, founder of Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth and an architect for over twenty years, will be joined by Danish scientist, Niels Harrit, Associate Professor at the University of Copenhagen—a chemist and university teacher with expertise in organic chemistry, photochemistry, fluorescence, and nanotechnology.

Harrit co-authored a peer-reviewed paper along with Dr. Steven Jones and several others, documenting their discovery of a highly energetic, nano-engineered form of thermite in World Trade Center dust. In its ordinary form, thermite, a mixture of iron oxide and aluminum powder, burns extremely hot –around 4500° F. – more than hot enough to melt iron, which melts at around 2700° F. Gage and Harrit will present evidence that the three World Trade Center skyscrapers were explosively demolished on September 11, 2001.

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9/11 Truth Discussed by Libertarian National Chair Candidates in Kansas Convention

May 3, 2010

major source: Independent Political Reporter    May 3, 2010

On Saturday April 24, Libertarian National Committee Chair candidates Ernest Hancock and Wayne Root debated at the LP state convention in Kansas.  9/11, and 9/11 “truth” were brought up a number of times during the debate:

One thing is clear - Wayne Root is scared to talk about 9/11. The arguments Root has presented in this debate only show a lack of courage to address the attacks of 9/11 after almost 10 years. Why are scare tactics the only way to discuss 9/11?  Mr. Root mentions Debra Medina’s campaign failure after talking about 9/11 on the Glenn Beck show as a reason to not elect Ernest Hancock.

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AE911Truth Debates Explosive Expert: Richard Gage, AIA vs. Ron Craig

January 12, 2010

source: 9/11 Blogger     Jan 12, 2010

YOU ARE ENTITLED TO YOUR OWN OPINION, BUT NOT YOUR OWN FACTS.

Richard Gage, AIA, founder of Architects and Engineers for 911 truth, and Ron Craig, explosives and Hollywood special effects expert locked horns in their second live radio debate in two years. The exchange was hosted by Richard Syrett of The Conspiracy Show. LISTEN TO THE DEBATE NOW.

While no data is available yet for listenership numbers, we do know that the show could be heard from Thunderbay Ontario to the Carolinas….from Maine to Minnesota, NYC, Chicago, Washington and all points in between. Also, the program is offered as a podcast, so it will be available on iTunes as a download. It’s the most downloaded show on the radio station – Zoomer Radio from Ontario. The show will also be broadcast on TV – www.theconspiracyshow.com

After brief introductory statements, the debate began right away with two very different views of reality on display. Gage’s comments were based on observations that the three WTC towers did not suffer a natural collapse as a result of plane impacts and fires, but came down due to an engineered explosive destruction. Craig, on the other hand, asserted the belief that the plane strikes delivered three times the kinetic energy that the buildings were designed to withstand, that the construction was faulty, and that there was “no signature of explosions”.

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AE911Truth in Live Radio Debate with Explosive Expert

January 7, 2010

Listen live to a two-hour debate on “The Conspiracy Show” with Richard Syrett.

• 2 hours: 11 p.m. – 1 a.m. EST
• AM740 Zoomer Radio Toronto, Canada

Saturday January 10th 2010 “The Conspiracy Show” will cover the topic of the evidence for controlled demolition of the WTC Twin Towers and WTC Building 7 on 9/11. On this show Richard Gage, AIA and Ron Craig will debate once again the two opposing sides. Listen to the original debate from November 2007 and read the listener comments.

source: Architects and Enigineers for 9/11 Truth


Monday November 2: Public Meeting in London, Private Meeting in House of Commons

November 2, 2009

source: Reinvestigate 9/11

SCOTT FORBES is a British victim of the 9/11 attacks. Scott had the trauma of seeing many colleagues die as the Twin Towers collapsed opposite his New York flat. He was off work after attending to a power down the weekend before the disaster. Workers were recabling the building. The media and the 9/11 Commission have refused to investigate what was going on. Scott is not making allegations, he just wants to know the truth.

NIELS HARRIT is an expert on nanotechnology. His suspicions were aroused when he saw the rapid symmetrical collapse of Building 7, which took place hours after the attacks took place. The media announced the collapse before it happened but it took Bush’s scientists years to offer any sort of explanation. They have admitted the collapse was at free fall speed. Niels has analysed dust samples from the site and found some bizarre high energy particles which seem to be artifical.

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Historic 9/11 Debate with Bigard, Laurent, Kassovitz and Harrit on French TV

October 20, 2009

source: 9/11 Blogger

Historic 9/11 Debate with Bigard, Laurent, Kassovitz and Harrit on French TV

by World for 9/11 Truth

You have until October 28 to learn French because French TV France 2′s L’objet du scandalewith Guillaume Durand will air a historic debate over the official version of the 9/11 events.

On one side: 4 people with the hard task to defend the official version. On the other side, Jean-Marie Bigard, Mathieu Kassovitz, Éric Laurent and special guest Niels Harrit will tell France and the world why they don’t support the official theory and why they find it disturbing.

This is already a victory for the Bigard/Kassovitz camp who challenged the French media to organize a fair debate over 9/11 after being vilified by many French journalists because of their positions on 9/11. They have been called many names and even received death threats. But no serious journalist was able to challenge them on their positions and to seriously make a case against them based on facts. Now will be their chance, and like Bigard mentions in the below video, “good luck to them.”

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Global Warming or Global Freezing: is the ice really melting?

September 24, 2009

To be clear: For myself there are separate conversations that people too easily try to wrap up all together.  

  • Man made “global warming”
  • Man made pollution (air, sea, soil, freshwater, mind, etc..)

Man made “global warming” for me is a healthy debate. And to be more honest, I sold my car a long time ago to “do my part.” I also changed my diet and lifestyle. While the environment was not the only reason for these changes, it did have a factor in the decision making process. Other obvious benefits were excercise and a good digestive system. The change was relatively easy, and most of all it felt great.

However, after considerable years I took a closer look at the arguments made by climate alarmism, and found myself at odds with the results. I honestly don’t think there is a conclusive result of analysis, research, or experiment out there that will show that CO2 is followed by the temperature. This is the core argument of man made global warming. For instance, if CO2 rose and fell according to the temperature outside, than that would completely unhinge the C02 scare. C02 in that case would be a result of the climate, which as we know is always changing.

Man made pollution however is a real threat. Genetically modified seeds, de-forestation, overconsumption, dumping in the water, toxic shit, pesticides, chem-trails, and advertising are all killing us slowly. Truly, we must not let those crucial elements of a healthy bio-system get watered down under the “CO2 scare.” Which, as I said, is open for a healthy debate.  -ed

source: Global Research

 

President Obama just made a melodramatic appeal at the United Nations for global measures to dramatically curb what he called “the climate threat,” current euphemism for what is more popularly known as Global Warming, the theory that man-made CO2 emissions from cars, coal plants and other man-made sources are causing the earth to warm to the point the polar icecaps are irreversibly melting and threatening to flood a quarter or more of the earth’s surface. There’s only one thing wrong with Mr. Obama’s dramatic scenario: it is scientifically utterly wrong. Since 2007 the polar icecaps have been growing not melting and the earth has been cooling, not warming.

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