9/11 and Skeptic Magazine’s ‘Science’ of Controlled Demolitions

December 8, 2011

by Jerremy Hammond    source: Foreign Policy Journal    Dec 8, 2011

Chris Mohr at Skeptic magazine writes that “conspiracists are working hard to publicize their claims of scientific validity to the conjecture that the World Trade Center buildings were destroyed through controlled demolition.” He mentions a debate he had with Richard Gage, the founder of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, where more than 1,500 professional architects and engineers who question the official explanation for the collapse of the three World Trade Center buildings have signed a petition calling for a new—that is to say a real—investigation. “I thought initially that Gage might be on to something,” Mohr writes, “until I examined his science carefully” and debated him. In his article, he lists his responses to the controlled-demolition hypothesis. Sticking to the question of World Trade Center Building 7 (WTC 7), let’s examine Mohr’s arguments against the science behind the controlled-demolition hypothesis and in favor of the fire-induced collapse hypothesis. If you’re unfamiliar with WTC 7, you can watch it collapsing on 9/11 in the video below.

Mohr begins his case with the argument that “You cannot secretly prepare a controlled demolition of the two World Trade Center buildings … without anyone noticing anything unusual.” He does not mention it, but we may presume he thinks it would be just as impossible in the case of WTC 7, the third WTC building to collapse completely on 9/11. The main point to be made about this assertion is that it is not a scientific argument, but speculation. It, for starters, assumes that nobody noticed anything unusual in the days, weeks, and months before 9/11. But is that true? Since this possibility was never actually investigated, and thus building workers were never interviewed and asked whether they noticed any suspicious activity going on, we don’t really know. Also, while it may seem unlikely that this could be done, if the actual scientific evidence disproves the fire-induced collapse hypothesis and proves the alternative, then one has a priori knowledge that, however unlikely, this must have occurred. So we must turn to the science, which Mohr does get to, eventually, as we shall see.

Mohr writes, “Though it is true that no tall steel frame buildings ever collapsed due to fire alone prior to 9/11, since then, other tall steel framed buildings have.” He is referring, of course, to WTC 7, which wasn’t hit by a plane. It did suffer significant debris impact damage from the collapse of the North Tower, but the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), the government agency responsible for the investigation into the building’s collapse, acknowledged that the damage was neither an initiating nor determinative factor in the collapse. As the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) noted in its initial report, “Prior to September 11, 2001, there was little, if any, record of fire-induced collapse of large fire-protected steel buildings.” Following up on FEMA’s preliminary investigation, NIST noted in its final report that the collapse of WTC 7 “was the first known instance of the total collapse of a tall building primarily due to fires.” Richard Gage has observed that in every instance where a tall building (that is, a steel-framed skyscraper) has collapsed with characteristics like those of WTC 7, it was a known controlled demolition.

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9/11 Debate with Richard Gage and Chris Mohr in Colorado Broadcasting Live: Listen in

March 6, 2011

Mar 6, 2011

No Lies Radio will be broadcasting the debate live (and archiving it).

http://noliesradio.org/archives/30994

Please CLICK HERE to listen to the live debate starting at 4:00 pm Pacific time, Sunday, March 6.

This is from the Colorado 9/11 Visibility:

Colorado 9/11 Visibility is pleased to announce a live debate addressing the collapse of the three World Trade Center buildings on September 11, 2001

Sunday afternoon, March 6th, at the Boulder campus of the University of Colorado, Colorado 9/11 Visibility will host a debate between Richard Gage, AIA (American Institute of Architects), and Chris Mohr, Denver investigative journalist.

The question: What brought down the three World Trade Center skyscrapers?

Richard Gage, AIA, is a San Francisco Bay Area architect and a member of the American Institute of Architects. He has been an architect for over 23 years and has worked on most types of building construction, including numerous fire-proofed, steel-framed buildings.  His quest for the truth about 9/11 began in 2006, and he subsequently founded Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth.

Chris Mohr, investigative journalist and advocate of the “natural collapse” theory, is a sincere seeker of the truth who has extensively researched the collapses of the World Trade Center (WTC) buildings, consulted with independent physicists and engineers, and passionately argues that the buildings collapsed due to the plane impacts and fires.

In November 2010 at Denver’s Mercury Café, Mohr debated attorney Earl Staelin on the collapse of the twin towers.  This debate was unprecedented in its civility and professionalism.

In the upcoming March 6th debate with Richard Gage, the discussion will explore not only the collapse of the twin towers, but also that of 47-story World Trade Center Building 7, which collapsed completely at 5:21 pm on 9/11/01.  For those of you not familiar with the collapse of WTC7, this is a riveting, don’t-miss controversy.  We look forward to a dynamic, respectful, and thoroughly informative exploration of these topics.

We are pleased to announce that radio personality Tom Kiely of INN World Report will be the moderator for this debate!

This is a rare opportunity!  Please send this announcement to your contacts and invite them to join you at the debate, in particular those who would be especially interested in hearing both sides of this controversial issue.

We believe that both sides debating respectfully, yet passionately, will have a strong impact in making “what happened on 9/11″ a legitimate subject for public discourse. Therefore, due to the importance and uniqueness of this event, Colorado 9/11 Visibility has commissioned a professional video team to film the debate and produce a high-quality program suitable for television broadcast, along with a DVD for distribution.

We need your help. This is an expensive endeavor, and we cannot continue to do work on this seminal issue without funds.  We need donations, both large and small. Please go here to donate at this website, or send a check made out to Colorado 9/11 Visibility and send to Fran Shure, 1841 S. Sherman St., Denver, CO 80210.

To learn more as well as link to the archive of the warm-up radio debate, see the article at Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth


Richard Gage and Chris Mohr Debate WTC Collapse

February 19, 2011

source: Rule of Law Radio   Feb 19, 2011

Live debate between Richard Gage (www.AE911Truth.org) and Chris Mohr, journalist and advocate for the theory of “natural collapse.”

Richard and Chris will be debating in public Sunday March 6th 5pm at the University Memorial Center Room 235 Colorado University in Boulder. A video of that debate will be released subsequently.

(The interview/debate starts about 1/3 of the way into the download)

INN_Radio_2011-02-17_128k.mp3


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